Replying to LO24995 --
How to make training work is a typical "trainers" question. Consider:
"Who may make training work?"
"What must make training work?"
"Why will make training work?"
And then the same with:
"How does the training work"
"What can you do to make training work?"
"Why will I make training work?"
"Who of us may make training work?"
And also consider:
"What training "worked" in the past and why?"
"What does who expects from training and did they got what they expected? If
yes: Ooh? If no: Aah?"
And off course ask five times why:
"Why did the training (not) work?"
Because of involvement of the manager
"Why was the manager (not) involved?"
Because he supposed that was necessary
"Why did the manager supposed that that was necessary?"
Because he supposed a training is something for somebody else
"Why does he suppose that?"
Because he supposes a training is not for him / her
"Why does he supposes that?"
Because he never went to the training him / herself.
And off course, also a nice one:
Left and right column thinking:
What is thought What is said
I'm unsatisfied with your "Trainins doesn't work"
behaviour and i want
to see that you see that
for your self because
it is too painfull to tell
[Above reformatted by your host..]
Just some thought from not-a-trainer,
Jan Lelie
Eugene Taurman wrote:
> Thanks for your comments because of your note I read my comments about
> training and they are a little strong for my beliefs.
>
> The point I was trying to make is that training that is not supported by a
> change in mangers behavior is largely a waste. As you point one way to
> change is to train large numbers and form a new supportive culture around
> the new ideas. That can work. My point is directed to managers who train
> and expect that to be enough while they continue to have the same
> priorities and ask the same old questions. Even with a support culture if
> managers are not changing priorities the change is not likely take root.
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