Replying to LO25862 --
It seems to me that a more focused definition of team, community and
organisation are called for.
> The team is the most clearly focused on their desired outcomes. One good
> definition of a team is a group of people who need each other
> to produce a desired result. A team is usually small enough that their
> desired result is more specific (narrow). For example, the sales team.
If you use Katzenbach and Smith's difinition of team you have 4 realities
that can be pointed to by what you call team. They suggest team, high
performance team, pseudo team and working group. the first two are
display learning behaviour as a unit while that last two do not.
> A community (as in a community of interest or a community of
> practice) has common interests and may produce similar or related results,
> but the
> result is less significant that the practices and quality of the
> experience. For example, the world wide community of people interested in
> org learning.
I suspect that the same might apply hear but I don't know how. Often
communities of interest and practise are not learning communities - in
fact are designed to perpetuate their own beliefs.
> An organization (or institution) is somewhere in between in terms of the
> results. It is usually bigger than a team, has more desired results
> (sales, profits, return to stakeholders, quality of experience for the
> employees, retention, market share, quality, support for the neighboring
> community, etc.)
The same can be said about organisations.
Jon C. Jenkins
Groningen, The Netherlands
See The International Facilitator's Companion, The Social Processes, The
Innovation Workshop and The Other World at
[Host's Note: Thanks Jon, for the additions. Now, how about a good
definition of "organization"? ..Rick]
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