Replying to LO26433 --
Dear Organlearners,
Greetings to all of you,
AM de Lange <amdelange@gold.up.ac.za> writes:
>Goethe also struggeled with the idea of forms which exist
>seemingly from the beginning. But since he was deeply under
>the impression of wholeness, he would never have subscribed
>to a concept like "archetype". (I wonder if the word existed in
>his times.) He came with the name "Uhr-phaenomen" for his idea.
I am derillious because once again I reply to myself.
After having posted the above contribution, I remembered one night while
waking up that a certain Plotinus from the School of Alexandria had an
understanding different from the Platonean idea that arhcetypes (ideas)
were forms which had to be filled by content. Although the philosophers of
the School of Alexandria were called Neoplatonists (a "new version" of
Platonean philosophy), Plotinus was actually considered by them to be a
mystic. In other words, his philosophy was not readily comprehensible by
the Neoplatonists.
Plotinus considered "logie" (the plural for "logos") to be the essences of
all objects. These "logie" had form and content like the form of a written
word needs its letters as its content, or the form of a spoken word need
its sounds. Perhaps his "logie" was very much the same as the
"Uhr-phaenomen" of Goethe.
I could not find out when Plotinus lived. But I got the curious feeling
that what he seemed to have said (all his writings had been burned 640 AC)
corresponds very much to what the apostel John said of Jesus in his Gospel
(Chapter 1).
With care and best wishes
--At de Lange <amdelange@gold.up.ac.za> Snailmail: A M de Lange Gold Fields Computer Centre Faculty of Science - University of Pretoria Pretoria 0001 - Rep of South Africa
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