democracy or constitutional state? LO27559

From: Don Dwiggins (d.l.dwiggins@computer.org)
Date: 11/18/01


Replying to LO27542 --

At de Lange writes:
> Greetings dear Benjamin,

> Thank you for your contribution. I am glad that you are back.

I'd like to echo that -- welcome back, Ben! I looked a bit at your
website; sounds like you've found a rewarding identity there. (Since you
mention a passion for your river, it occurred to me that you might enjoy
discussing rivers a bit with Leo...)

>> Certainly the rule of law that liberates one may bring tyranny to
>> another? And one set of organizational policies may bring out the best of
>> some and the worst in others.

> Rules and laws in the absence of ROL will certainly cause those ordinate
> bifurcations, but not ROL itself. Actually, the spirit of ROL is to
> prevent such ordinate bifurcations as far as possible. I personally think
> that jurisprudence will have to begin taking into account what complexity
> science is beginning to uncover of ordinate bifurcations which happen on
> the ridge of chaos.

This raises a topic that I'd like to see more discussion on. It's one
thing for an individual to undergo a creative collapse and emerge renewed,
refreshed, reborn, ... But what about an "organizational bifurcation",
when often members are at different stages of the bifurcation, and maybe
going in different directions? What holds an organization together during
a creative collapse, when the normal ties, constraints, common
assumptions, etc., may themselves be part of the collapse?

If there are readers who have witnessed or lived though such an
organizational event, I'd be interested to hear ideas on what it was that
helped the "center to hold".

Best wishes to all learners,

-- 

Don Dwiggins d.l.dwiggins@computer.org "When old words die out on the tongue, new melodies break forth from the heart; and where the old tracks are lost, new country is revealed with its wonders." -- Rabindranath Tagore

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