help needed LO27663

From: AM de Lange (amdelange@gold.up.ac.za)
Date: 01/02/02


Replying to LO27655 --

Dear Organlearners,

Under the name Maurits Rijk <lpeek.mrijk@consunet.nl>
Laura Peek writes:

>Replying to LO27639 --
>
>Why 'respected sir'?
>
>No wish for replies by ladies? :)
>
>Kind regards,
>Laura Peek

Upon which Rick replied:

>[Host's Note: I offer my own apologies for the
>'respected sir' greeting... In general I try to notice
>things like this and replace them. I missed this one.
>Replies by ladies are, of course, welcome here in
>every instance. ..Rick]

Greetings dear Laura and Rick,

When Megha Vidyarthi < megha_vid@rediffmail.com > wrote his/her request in
LO27639, I got vividly the impression how a person of the Indian culture
tried his/her very best to communicate in what he/she thinks is the best
articulation in Western culture, yet unaware of the "chauvinsim-feminism"
dialectics. I even thought how the "respected sir" might be mistaken for
some male chavinism.

I still remember how I also wondered whether the name Megha would indicate
a man or a woman. Not that sex matters that much for better or worse.
However, to get a clearer mental picture of every person which I want to
respond to, all details play a role for me, even sex.

For example, I myself are now somewhat confused. The name Maurits Rijk
historically indicated a male person whereas the name Laura Peek indicated
a female person. But the "lpeek.mrijk" of the email address indicates that
somehow we have two different persons in some kind of association with
each other. Perhaps the world has changed so much that Laura now indicates
a male person while while Maurits indicates a female person ;-) In such a
case it is wonderful that the one sex come up in defense of the other sex.

I would very much like women to contribute much more to our LO-dialogue.
It is a fact that men (like most other male mammals) with their testerone
jewels can become bullies rather quickly. I myself have had more than
enough of such one sided chemistry. Here in the New South Africa we have
benefitted much from hearing what women have to say and doing what they
have decided.

Please, let us bear in mind that the gender roles differ in different
cultures. To expect all cultures to have the same gender roles or even
genderless roles is simply denying diversity as essential to creative
learning.

Megha wrote:

>> I would like to do my B A Hons dissertation
>> on the topic " Competitive Advantages of being
>> a Learning Organisation".

A LO certainly has competitive advantages over an OO (Ordinary
Organisation). But I am pretty sure that an OO will never be able to
emerge into a LO for the sake of merely such competitive advantages. An OO
will emerge into an LO when the passion for doing so burns high enough.
What is worthy of such passion? Competition?

We have had competition on many walks of life. Did they ever lead to the
emergence of LOs? Definitely not in even one single case here in South
Africa which I know of.

But, for example, to care spiritually for one another in an OO had often
led to its emergence in a "tacit" LO. With "tacit" I mean that the members
know that something extraordinary did happen to their organisation, but
they were not aware of the dedicated Sengian terminology to articulate
what had happened to them! However, one thing they all could articulate
clearly -- how fantastic it was to belong to that organisation after it
has transformed.

I would advise Megha to make a comparitive study on the reasons why an OO
would want to transform into a LO as well as grouping these reasons into
strong or weak ones based on actual case studies. The grey area would be
to decide which OOs had indeed emerged into LOs. Here I would look for
clues that the five disciplines were TACITLY employed while members shared
metanoia with each other. The Field Book has many examples as a clue what
to search for. I would certainly cast my net much wider than the world of
business to include the worlds of leisure, sport, education and even
religion.

With care and best wishes

-- 

At de Lange <amdelange@gold.up.ac.za> Snailmail: A M de Lange Gold Fields Computer Centre Faculty of Science - University of Pretoria Pretoria 0001 - Rep of South Africa

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