Cultivating honesty and integrity in our organisations LO27895

From: Judy Tal (judyt@netvision.net.il)
Date: 02/22/02


Replying to LO27886 --

Replying to LO27886

Hello Andrew, and All,

I must admit that I couldn't follow the tread - I'm short in free energy
these days :o), but I'm browsing free, to pick up words of compassion and
sanity from the contributors of this very special list ... thanks All :o)

Andrew, you wrote:

...snip...

> The psychological rule says that when an inner situation is not made
> conscious, it happens outside, as fate. That is to say, when the
> individual remains undivided and does not become conscious of his inner
> contradictions, the world must perforce act out the conflict and be torn
> into opposite halves.
> Jung (psychoanalyst)

I didn't know of such an observation by Jung. Actually I know very little
of his work. But I also have this kind of understanding from a different
angle, namely when an individual does not become conscious of an inner
contradiction, he percieves the split from the outer world. one would say:
"you see what you want to see". It means that an individual will remain
blind to see the whole (which is by nature bigger than the sum of it's
parts), as long as he fails to realise the split inside himself.

This explanation leans on a fractal model of "self" - like genes, like
memes, and also on Matte Blanco's model of the human consciousness.

... and useless to mention that the process never ends (well, almost never
:o)

> From an inner center the psyche seems to move outward, in the sense of
> extraversion, into the physical world.
> Wolfgang Pauli (Nobel physicist)

No doubt that these gentlemen where talking about the same thing ... Junge
percieves it as a law of nature - a symetric inter-relation: if the
"inside" lacks something (what is it? an insight? lightening? becoming!)
then the "outside" must perforce act - to balance? Pauli percieves it as a
result of a force operating from "inside" on and to "outside". Nobel
physicist or not? Matte Blanco, like many others draws a map - an abstract
(mathematical) model, with a fractal structure. When realized (M.B.'s
map!) it is fascinating the eye/ear/touch ... yes, it bears a touch of
wholeness.

I see something promissing in Matte Branco's attitude - it seems to me
that he's just saying " ... so it goes". Thus he encourages the search for
more and more lessons in accepting the inner split - painfull as these
lessons can become, sometimes.

you also quoted:

> Science promises man power... But as so often happens when people are
> seduced by promises of power, the price is servitude and impotence. Power
> is nothing if it is not the power to choose. Joseph Weizenbaum, MIT

Following the previous thoughts (and the open question: what is better,
inner split or outer split? what is more moral? what is benefitial to the
human eace?) don't you think Weizenbaum should have mentioned "Courage" as
well?

Thanks All,
Judy

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