yellow-light-love LO29694

From: ACampnona@aol.com
Date: 12/12/02


Dear At,

Under the glass on my desk, under the window, under the sky is a picture
of a yellow rose. It was in blossom in the courtyard area of our tiny
garden on the morning of the new millennium. Embedded within the image
through no process involving me;-) are many faces that appear
transnatural, easiest to describe them as like the little figures seen in
Renaissance art, those cheeky characters beloved of dear Raphael. I have
lost the image file, and so all I have is the one copy under the glass on
my desk, under the window, under the sky. I am going to copy it and send
it to you, please give it to Alicia with my love, and Anona's love. Alicia
and you will find the ways for its dissipation.

It seems ages ago that I stumbled on this place. What a strange moment
that was. It would be a very long list, of people, and ideas I have
digested since then.

I have also I think experienced some metanoia as a result of experiences
originating from the people who inhabit this space. I am for example still
thinking upon why photons propagate forwards;-) and how it is the God
weaves the great complexity that we are instantaneously, and all we see is
...the past.

entropy->creativity->learning, I note in 1997 in reply to dear Rol,
<<Your term 'shared self-evident truths' is encompassed by the term 'wisdom'.
Wisdom is not only about truths, but also about rights,
endeavours, etc. Wisdom have three very important properties.
1 All the 'elements' of wisdom belong to a very high order.
2 Wisdom is easily recognised by people having had much creative experiences.
3 Wisdom is the power house to generate creative experiences.
Deep creativity (which includes human creativity) exhibits two phases, a
revolutionary (bifurcative) phase and an evolutionary (digestive) phase.
In the bifurcative phase a bare new order may become established by an
emergence, or an old order become destroyed by an immergence. This phase
happens when sufficient entropy is produced fast enough. The entropy is
produced while energy forms changes into other forms. Some of these
initial forms of energy are able to drive the changes and hence gets the
collective name 'free energy'. The free energy is derived from the mature
structures in the highest previous order. Another way to say it, is 'wisdom
is the power house to generate creative experiences', specifically
new experiences. It happens in chemistry, in plants and animals and also in
the realm of human affairs. >>

Few people in the history of doing and knowing have expressed so much with
so few words, IMHO ;-)

Sometimes I find myself sensing large parcels of postings here
resonating...as Umberto Eco once said, of books in some great and hidden
library ;-)...and that I once quoted s..."murmering among each other."
December has been such a time. I can almost see the 'digestions' going on
among participants. I wonder if you sense the same? My deepest instinct is
that you do.

I was going to follow in my wandering way the recent 'traffic flow'
thread, 'learning flow' thread...and others...but in following Maslow and
his, our collective willingness to avoid the descretions of implicated
brick walls where none exist...I found a paper that spoke of something
much closer to my heart. The closeness to heart stems from a painting I
made a few weeks ago...the sentiment following it were written by Mike
Leyton..." the true mystic is one for whom, thought becomes so dense, so
totalized, that it becomes the physical world." Let us not discuss;-) the
term 'mystic', let is substitute it for 'authentic learner' and read it
again as..." the authentic learner is one for whom, thought becomes so
dense, so totalized, that it becomes the physical world." Mmmmmm.

OK, below are words I got my head and heart around tonight. It expressed
to me both close and at a distance my experience of late. Experiences I
want more of. Paradoxically I suspect that in getting that 'need' I will
have to spend much more time on my own, away from 'e-groups' and
'societies' however much I long for an illusion of 'inclusion' from time
to time.

I deliberately resist giving the URL or ref. for what follows. I would
like just to place it here. As I found it, some old fruit on a withering
branch in a wasteland of information. However, in looking at it whole, I
saw a bloom. (close loop)

Level ___highest___ feeling opens us up to an appreciation of the
transpersonal/communal aspects of personal ontology. Human BEING is
inter-being , as Thich Nhat Hahn says. The direct experience of this
profound level of interconnectedness that is at the core of each of us,
because it is not commonly experienced, is sometimes labelled 'mystical',
but there is nothing unnatural about it. It is accessible through the
advanced (or 'educated') feeling function. We will not say much about it
here, except for the fact that hints of this ontological
interconnectedness of everything (and everyone) can be detected in our
lower level understandings of feeling and relationship. It is almost as if
the move up the levels is progressively inspired by a dawning awareness of
the fact of interconnectedness. Johnson takes 'love' as the primary
emotion, the one which reveals to us our transpersonal and intersubjective
nature as individuals. It is the emotion through which we recognize our
interconnectedness. Baldelli finds in the emotion of love the foundation
of all ethics. And Weick sees it as the cornerstone of the just society.
For the 'mystics', says Johnson

> The most intimate interpersonal relations were the outcome of their profound
> contemplative experience. That is why in dealing with their fellow-man they
> could see and hear and touch at a new level. That is why they could
> sometimes read hearts and know intuitively what others were thinking. I am
> not speaking here about extrasensory perception but about a certain
> mystical awareness, an intuitive knowledge, a deep feeling. No superficial
> emotion this, but an extraordinary empathy. When two mystics were friends
> (and often they were) there arose between them a remarkable indwelling
> which enabled them to say one to the other: 'As the Father loved me, so
> have I loved you; abide in my love' (John 15:9) (149)

Hillman similarly speaks of using emotion, love in particular, as a tool
for transcendence. He speaks of 'curing emotion through emotion' by
'choosing one emotion to transform and re-order the others':

> Energetically expressed we tap the sources of all emotions if we live one
> fully. This is the way of PASSION. The emotion often recommended in the
> literature is love... (183)

Johnson takes this thought a step further, viewing love as a 'sacred'
emotion in that it provides individuals with an opportunity not only for
transpersonal transformation, but for establishing a 'meeting of the
minds' that is at the same time an 'epiphany' of the infinite in wordly
form. In his discussion of the twelfth century Cistercian, Aelred of
Rievaulx, he speaks of love as 'the kiss of the spirit, exchanged between
friends'. Aelred says, 'For in the two friends he creates such a sacred
emotion that they feel as if they are two souls in one body, and they say
with the prophet: 'Behold how good and pleasant it is for brethren to
dwell together as one'. (151)

end citation.

Dear At, you once wrote of 'kissing my for(e)head' ...and I have digested
the lesson of 'old trees in stormy times'...for me those words 'As the
Father loved me, so have I loved you; abide in my love' (John 15:9) have
exponential meaning in my own shared journey of metanoia.

Rick, please remove the image of the 'yellowchurch' from the LO archives
for me. I am going to build a quite different house, out of new light and
new love.

[Host's Note: I will do so. Looking forward to the 'new house' ..Rick]

Andrew
North Moreton
Oxon

"I will 'uncorner' the 'market' you have 'called' love."

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ACampnona@aol.com

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