Knowledge and Information LO30711

Date: 10/15/03

Replying to LO30698 --

In a message dated 10/14/2003 8:47:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, writes:

>Per my comments above, I agree that fact is reality. But to say that it
>is truth is to beg the question of how we determine truth relative to
>what the facts are.

I am sorry but I think I'll retire from this discussion. To continue on
Mark's terms would require us to redefine words that Webster has already
defined. It does not "beg" a question to use a term as it is properly

Mark wants to discuss the process of becoming true or ascertaining truth
and that is good - but it is not the point of this discussion.

Information is expressed as facts and knowledge is used / applied to
reason about these facts. Reasoning is the "engine" of a sentient mind.
The only way to detect knowledge is to observe some action under the
control of this mind.

I have seen no case or argument which would persuade me to believe that
knowledge can exist outside and without the "engine" - the reasoning
mechanism to apply the knowledge. So I say again, a connection ready to
make is not a connection made - that is, it is not knowledge but might be
considered "knowledge ready."

A learning organization learns both facts and knowledge. They are, imho,
learned differently. The ability to distinguish facts (information) from
knowledge is, imho, critical to learning.

Best regards,
Hal Popplewell

Chairman and CEO
AgentWare Systems, Inc.
186 East Main Street - Suite 300
Northville, Michigan 48167
Office: 248-735-4497
Fax: 248-735-4509
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