Myriad LO30948

From: ACampnona@aol.com
Date: 02/11/04


..." you need to know, i never went to school..." V. January 2004

For Vikki.

HelLO dear At ;-)

it is amusing to me how, those who most commend to us courses for
'living in worlds with no foundations' are spending an awful lot of
time and energy building 'virtual temples' as foundations for personal
reputations, with toll gates at the temple doors. I too have continued
to follow the streams here at LO.

i have nothing to say now directly, about the subjects lines currently
under discussion. i do want to pass on these word from an inveterate
learner...

“Sometimes one sees simply the instrument for transferring a certain
maximum quantity of knowledge to the growing generation. But that is
not right. Knowledge is dead; however, a school serves the living. It
should develop in the individuals those qualities and capabilities
which are of value for the welfare of the commonwealth. That does not
mean that individuality should be destroyed and the individual become
a mere tool of the community, like a bee or an ant. In this attempt I
cannot lay any claim to being an authority, especially as intelligent
and well-meaning men of all times have dealt with educational problems
and have certainly repeatedly expressed their views clearly about
these matters. From what source shall I, as a partial layman in the
realm -, derive courage to expound opinions with no foundations except
personal experience and personal conviction? If it were really such a
scientific matter, one would probably be tempted to silence by such
considerations." Albert Einstein

there are rich memories for me, deeply set in this splace called the
Rick Karash LO. I can recall in the past, both formally and tacitly
how you would commend to me that in times of distress and hurt i seek
out and enjoy 'emergences that will leave you speechless!'...what a
brilliant think to say ;-)

i think i know that a part of your mission in learning here has been
to set forth and articulate in part what in part Senge is saying here
(see Url for pdf),- about what he learned from a man in a distant
country. Maybe Peter Senge is saying he knew it, but not fully knew
it...he must have knewed it ;-) because he'd met Bohm's rich
thinklings well before master Nan's rich thinklings.

maybe there is a right time to know the things we need to know in
space/time? Maybe it is ALL a preparation.

i tried to explain (badly) to Claus Otto Scharmer a while back, how i
envisaged this ''becoming being'' in an archetypal image ( i will
share that another time maybe)...but it was a strange resultant image,
it was about bending in electrical cuurents, loops within
loops...until it arrived in a bowl shape, or a 'U' shape as Otto
perceives many of his process images. Anyhow, my head was full of
lables, and then, one day i was with a girl just like Vikki, 'no
schooling'. It fell out of my diary. She picked it up...'what is that
supposed to be?'...'i don't know V, what do you see?'..."Mmmmm...she
turns it this way and that...i see a womb."

At, in a thousand years of looking, i would never have seen a womb.

i have spoken to many people in the past several years about safe
spaces, bowls, sanctuaries, retreats, caves...no-ne had ever spoken of
a 'womb' That was a very wise observation on her part, wasn't it. I
was speechless, for a moment.

here, for anyone interested is another image, it may have been in the
4MB file i put on deposit here a few weeks ago. Maybe people can open
it, see what they see. i am open for questions about the imagery.

http://www.dialogonleadership.org/ArtWork/PeterSengeDoLOneIssue.pdf

just one thing about the image - there is no original - so whatever
you find you find on the interface between your eye and your mind. Sir
Robert Penrose tells that the eye is an organ of (connected directly
up to) the brain/mind set. in which case i revise my sentence to say,
whatever you find is found between your mindseye and.....the light?

My love to you ''dear'' < At,

Andrew Campbell
North Moreton
Dawn, 11th February 2004

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