When is LO inappropriate? LO13845

Ray Evans Harrell (mcore@IDT.NET)
Wed, 04 Jun 1997 22:13:07 -0700

Replying to LO13835 --

Mike Jay wrote:

> The key is that any organization learns, some at dysfunctional speeds. I
> have worked in hospitality (foodservice) for a number of years and yes,
> these types of orgs(systems) can adopt LO principles with turnovers as
> high as 105%--industry average. The difficulty sometimes is org amnesia
> as the institutional memory is concentrated in those few that remain, so
> the org continually learns the same things over and over, or in cycles of
> learning. However, as I reviewed your post, I realized that LO principles
> established in the system rather than being dependent on each individuals
> learning rates and aptitudes/attitudes are effective over the long run as
> the culture presents learning to new hires as a norm.

Mike, that is my experience as well. I used to conduct graded choirs,
that when I started could barely match pitches. After working with them
for a year they had a certain amount of technique and then graduated into
the next level.

I expected the choirs that I trained to improve as they moved on, but the
new choir that came in with no training seemed to start where the old
choir had finished. Within the culture of the church there was a gradual
rise not only in the sophistication of the singers and the congregation
but in the youngest choirs ability to match pitches and carry a tune in
their voice and mind. i.e. their base skill.

> On a side note:
>
> The higher a worker's income, the higher the participation in training.
> Only one in five Canadian workers with incomes at the lowest end of the
> scale (less than $15,000) took some training, based on a survey conducted
> on behalf of Human Resources Development Canada and reported in an
> upcoming issue of Education Quarterly Review. That compares with almost
> half of those at the highest income level (more than $75,000).

Except for singers in New York City where the base average income is
$15,000 with a Masters degree. They still seem to find the money for $65
to $125 voice lessons, opera coachings $35 and opera workshop $35 to $65
as well as therapists and other learning vices.

Regards

Ray Evans Harrell, artistic director
The Magic Circle Chamber Opera of New York
mcore@idt.net

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Ray Evans Harrell <mcore@IDT.NET>

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