Does LO really exists? LO23022

J.C. Lelie (
Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:50:25 +0200

Replying to LO23015 --

Hello Miss Nordarlina,

Welcome. You're probably familiar with the joke of the three baseball
referees, arguing about what to call a ball, a strike or not. The first
one says:
"I calls them as I sees them"; The second one says:
"I call them as they are"; the third one concludes:
"They aint nothing, until I've called them".

Also, what I have learned from a sales man: "A LO is anything the customer
says it is".

In the struggle to continuously reinvent ourselves - the famous Dutch
statement Luctor et Emergo springs to mind (I struggle (it used to be with
the waters of the sea) and emerge (creating dry land)) - the idea of the
LO proved to be a platform, an image, a concept, a network that works,
supplies some meaning, creates innovations and brings people together. The
fact that you are exchanging messages with this LO-list, proves that the
concept of LO exists in its implications, whether it exists for real or

By the way, it is the same when you try to find a match between
literature and reality for:
- Total Quality Management (TQM)
- Business Balanced Score Card (BBSC)
- Enterprise Resource planning (ERP)
- e-business
- emotional intelligence (EI)
- the Compasionate Organization (CO)

The only exception i know of is: "strategy, change and defensive routines"
(Chris Argyris), there you'll find a perfect match between literature and
practice ;-).

Kind regards,

Jan Lelie

Miss M S Nordarlina wrote:

> I am currently doing a paper on LO. After reading the literature available
> on LO, I failed in trying to match the theories to the organisations
> claiming to be LO. Various organisations are actually engaging in a
> continuous learning process, but are they really LOs? Personally I don't
> think LO really exists. That is, one that really matches all the
> descriptions found in all the literatures. Anyone would like to comment on
> that?
> Miss M S Nordarlina <>

With kind regards - met vriendelijke groeten,

Jan Lelie

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