Systems Thinking.. or Not? LO25069

From: AM de Lange (
Date: 07/14/00

Replying to LO25064 --

Dear Organlearners,

Winfried Dressler < > writes:

>Although I don't know how much you value growing in
>happiness :-) I would like to ask some questions:

Greetings Winfried,

Happiness is one of the gifts (generative adjoints) of emergences. Should
these gifts become most important to me, then I will become just another
"emergence junky". However, happiness and the other gifts are important to
me because it shows me that I am complexifying and it is part of
recharging my spiritual free energy.

>How does your unhappiness help you in persueing your
>midwifery to authentic learning?

Perhaps the word unhappy is not the best choice. The German word "traurig"
("treurig" in my mother tongue) is a better word for which the English
"sad" may also do. Likewise the word "heil" ("geluk" in my mother tongue)
feels better for me than "happy" ("Heil" for "happiness").

By the way, Hitler was very clever with his call "sieg Heil". He pusehd
many people into becoming junkies for the rest of his ideas.

I use the "traurig" little in my midwifery (this reply being obviously an
exception ;-) Yet it does play an important role in my own authentic
learning. The difference between "traurig" and "heil" sometimes act as an
entropic force consuming my free energy. In such cases I have to take
special care to ensure also the complementary entropic flow. It usually
culminates in discovering yet a new facet of managing bifurcations into
emergences rather than immergences.

>How could the substance of this confusion and pollution
>make you unhappy if not by means of your imagination of it?

I do not imagine it. I experience it by meandering.

For example, when I walk in the wilds, I almost feel like walking in
heaven with all the emergences around me when suddenly I stumble on a
clearly polluted area and observe innumerous immergences. Another example,
I might sit in a conference, getting frustrated at all the confusion
created there among participants, just to get involved in a Boehmian
dialogue afterwards and observe how the very confusion transforms into
common understanding.

>If you would realize that being more happy would help you
>in your efforts to support overcoming this confusion and
>pollution, could you help yourself to become more happy?

I cannot become more happy by way of imagining it. I have to experience it
be way of creative evolution (in which authentic mental behaviour plays a
decisive role.) in pulsating manner. As a result my inner world gets less
confused and polluted.

But the outer world not. Two weeks ago a super ore carrying ship stranded
near Cape Town. Its crude oil began to leak and polluted the surrounding
islands. They are inhabited by penguins. It is now the height of their
breeding season, many of their single laid eggs beginning to hatch. The
oil pollution causes not only the death of the adults, but also of most of
the hatching eggs and chicks who never even came near to the polluted sea.
Less than a ten thousandth of a percent of the daily trading on the stock
markets would have prevented this ecological disaster. We now also have a
national lottery. Would one weeks lotting have been put aside, it would
have accomplished the same. But becoming rich self seems to be too

>I enjoyed very much to read some time ago on this very list
>someone citing Dalai Lama with his observation/speculation
>that love is growing in this world.

It is indeed the case in many parts of the world. There are also websites
on Internet showing the same happening. It shows that there is an
awakening to what I prefer to call "constructive creativity".

>Some may argue that this growing love is merely imagination
>without substance. Fortunately, this argument does not disturb
>me the slightest from being very happy. ;-))

Ask those who like to argue for imagination ("pie in the sky" ;-) What is
the substance of love?

>I wish you all the relief you may need to ever better follow
>the path of what matters to you in your life. Besides, if you
>were happy, would you do anything different?

Such "relief" would be indicative of more constructive and less
destructive creativity in the world around me. As for me, I have learned
(taking almost half a century) how to create self constructively despite
all the destrcutive creativity around me.

But what about our little children? They do not have that time available.
Thus we have to provide them with something else, namely "eine geborgene
Heimat" (sustainable environment for creativity or "deep ecology"). Are we
providing for them? What does the fact that ten thousands of penguin eggs
and chicks are now dying tell us?

By the way, 40 million of children per year now lose one parent as a
result of AIDS.

What is the value of our Systems Thinking when we switch it on for one
issue and switch it off for another issue which has a different content,
but exactly the same form. How I hate this "on/off switching of Systems
Thinking". It is just another manifestation of LEM.

With care and best wishes


At de Lange <> Snailmail: A M de Lange Gold Fields Computer Centre Faculty of Science - University of Pretoria Pretoria 0001 - Rep of South Africa

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