Psychological aspects of LO's LO26326

From: John Zavacki (
Date: 03/11/01

Replying to LO26318 --

Gavin said, earlier:

"I have reached the limits of organisational theories and have realised
their frailties in application, method and soundness. Once one sees the
underline pattern and association with most business models then one has
reached the place where I have to say I don't know. And I don't know, but
I don't get fooled anymore by slick talk nice saying and cute theories."

> "Dressler, Winfried" wrote:
> > Just wondering what you may be doing, now that you have
> > reached this point of wisdom ;-).
>Did I mention any point of wisdom, or maybe this is your
>interpretation. I said organizational theories this does not
>include social, technical, material, psychological, linguistic,
>semantical, spiritual, scientific theories and a thousand others
>Winfried you seem to really read into things in a rather
>interesting way, and interpret messages that that are not there.
>This has been going on quite some time with you and me. What is
>specifically bothering you about my messages? I am rather
>curious. There is nothing personal in my messages I speak about
>models and theories and my interpretation of them. If an say
>certain models has weakness that is because of my experience and
>use of them this has nothing to do with anyone on a personal
>level. I am not my model or my theories they exist outside of me.
>I use them as tools only.

sorry, Gavin, but if "reaching the limits of organizational theories"
ain't implied wisdom, then I'm a silly goat. The interpretation of models
and theories is what I do for a living is where I was initially educated
and where I did my research. Organizational theories have no limits from
where I stand, since they deal with cognitive, behavioural, abnormal, and
organizational psychology; the deepest theories of spirituality,
mathematical modelling, statistical analysis, and all kinds of other heavy
duty intellectually tasking Stuffs. We are tasked with Ortega y Gasset's
model of philosoph: we are tased with describing the universe. It's only
just begun.

[Host's Note: "tased" is probably "tasked" in the last sentence. ..Rick]

John Zavacki

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where I intended to be."
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