Truth and Reality in Systems Thinking LO26395

From: Roy Benford (roy@benford.demon.co.uk)
Date: 03/20/01


Replying to LO26361 --

Hi Gavin

>I would like to propose a new name for Systems Thinking " Processing
>Thinking" or how about "Flow thinking".

I am not comfortable with the term "flow thinking" because, in my mind, has
associations with "flow in consciousness" (reference 'Optimal experience' by
Csikszentmihalyi & Csikszentmihalyi). This flow in consciousness may be
optimal individual experience but its impact on society is not always
optimal, i.e. 'Bosozoko:flow in Japanese motorcycle gangs'.

>Systems pertains to the whole system including the structure and
>processing parts is this not so?

Because this list is about learning organisations, I have always assumed
that discussions about systems on this list refer to social systems. I
agree that structure and process are important aspects of systems. In my
view, social systems are systems plus humanity. The point of my two
additional questions was an attempt to add humanity to Richard's list of
questions.

Roy Benford
Fulmer, UK

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