Punished by Rewards LO14360

James Bullock (jbullock@pipeline.com)
Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:04:58 -0400

Replying to LO14295

> The key issue about intrinsic and extrinsic is that intrinsic comes from
> the task itself, while the extrinsive comes through someone else.

Exactly. There is a locus of task definition; either external or internal
(to the self). There is a locus of the definition of value; either
external or internal (to the self).

The slippery slope here is instrumental behaviors: behaviors that are
undertaken not for their own sake, but for the sake of some externally
defined, externally controlled consequence. There is nothing wrong with
instrumental behaviors per se, as long as one is, in fact, comfortable
with the trade-off. Often, with an instrumental behavior, one is not
really accepting of the trade off (of now for later).

Deci is much more eloquent about this in his book, which I hate to keep
mentioning.

> (when the person judging doesn't really understand or appreciate what you
> are doing.)

Buried in there is the fundamental issue of reward systems. It places one
individual in the position of judging the worth and value of the
activities of another individual. It creates a "one up/one down"
relationship; terms that are used in social psychology.

Some recent work, featured in _Fast Company_ a couple of months ago,
describes a process of designing work around a particular outcome. This
design is a joint activity.

It also talks about recognizing the fundamentally emotional nature of most
motivations. We are afraid, or empowered (joyous). We can work to move
away from the former, or toward the latter.

>From the behaviorist perspective, rewards, in fact, influence behaviors.
You get more of the reinforced behavior. But, puishments have the effect
of diminishing the punished behavior, but produce random behavior in its
place. People do anything but what they got beat up for.

Kind of sounds like business, does it not?

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