Unconscious Competence LO20068

AM de Lange (amdelange@gold.up.ac.za)
Thu, 3 Dec 1998 08:55:28 +0200

Replying to LO20000 --

Dear Organlearners,

Leslie Lax <leslax@cnx.net> writes:

>I also think that this reinforces the cyclical (spiral) model
>suggested where a state of unconscious competence (in
>the groove), allows space for further scanning, leading to
>conscious incompetence (following a period of further
>information gathering), leading to conscious competence
>(following a period of learning), further to unconscious
>competence (a higher groove). As with the move from
>unconscious incompetence, the cycle requires a leap of
>learning - an inherent desire for situation improvement.
>The impetus for this may be internal (an already
>developed/developing desire for improvement), or external
>("shocked" into desire for improvement through experience).

Greetings Les,

I have read this paragraph with great excitement. The reason is that you
have described learning very much as I understand it.

I myself I would not persist with the words conscious, unconscious,
competence and incompetence in decribing the "learning spiral". The reason
is that in my "world view" (Systems Thinking) consciousness and competancy
are "local" and not "global" concepts. Since there are many other
"self-organising spirals" in culture and nature, using "local" concepts
in describing them can become problematical.

Nevertheless, I have enjoyed your "localised" articulation of your tacit
knowledge in terms of the subject "Unconscious Competence" very much.

Les, you also write:

>Key to this process is the desire for situation improvement.
>The parallel process of building competence and learning is
>unlikely to continue where one believes that there is no room
>for situation improvement.

Again, I agree. But did you notice that you have used the words "desire"
and "believes"? Do you think that a Systems Thinking which cannot give a
coherent and consistent account of "desiring" and "believing", will be
sufficient to aid the emergence of a Learning Organisation?

>Thank you all for a very engaging conversation.

The same here. Although I never contributed to the thread, I really
enjoyed to observe the dialogue and subsequent learning on this thread.
Once again I came deep under the impression how the tension between the
duals conscious/unconscious and competence/incompetence as well as the
flow of ideas produced entropy and thus sustained learning.

Best wishes


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