LO in Hospitals LO22764

Gavin Ritz (garritz@xtra.co.nz)
Wed, 29 Sep 1999 18:00:35 +1200

Replying to LO22748 --

Dear John

Yip you are spot on there are professional bodies that look after learning
for Midwives, nurses, doctors, specialists, I do know of a hospital in New
Zealand that does updates for GP's for their annual assessments, the
assessments are usually done by the professional bodies. Also in private
hospitals doctors are the clients they are not employees. However a
hospital can help their employees to work within their quality
requirements plus procedures these can be part a a learning programme. I
have to prepare a learning programme for the hospital managers in a number
of areas but I would not say that this is an LO. Also most innovation is
not done in hospitals these are done on other sites. The sole purpose of
a hospital is get their patients from pain to harmony.

Kindest Gavin

John Gunkler wrote:

> Gavin Ritz opines that a LO approach to the clinical role of a hospital is
> not practical. I think I agree. But I wonder if we have the same
> reasons. Gavin, why did you say that?
> My reasons lie mainly in the hospital's lack of influence on clinical
> practice. Physicians and nurses and the other clinical professions do not
> look to the hospital for help or advice about their clinical practice --
> and they probably shouldn't.
> However, the hospital is a locus -- a physical place in which people come
> into contact with each other, often with a common (patient care) goal.
> This is an under-rated advantage, I believe. Lots of good things can
> happen, for learning, when people are in contact with each other --
> especially when this contact happens around meaningful work.
> So, if the hospital begins to see itself as a site where learning can
> occur -- even if nothing more -- could it not ask questions such as, "How
> can we structure this site to maximize the opportunities for clinical
> learning?" "What services can we provide so that the informal learning
> that happens here can be made more readily available to others?" (etc.,
> etc.)


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