Entropy LO23136

Dirk Keienburg (DKeienbu@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de)
Sat, 06 Nov 1999 14:16:32 +0100

Replying to LO23104 --

Steve Eskow wrote:

> In matters of faith, we do not insist on empirical evidence: we do not ask
> for proof that God exists, or that the resurrection took place.
>
> In matters of science, we do.
>
> Is your belief that the "holonic structures" are same in physics and
> spirit science or faith?

Dear Steve

I don't know your exact conception of faith or science, but I agree with
you that these are related to different domains (of knowledge?) which
should not be confused. This is also a distiction Wilber makes. So let me
ask some questions about faith and science. Is it really possible to prove
the existence of 'Spirit' scientifically? If it's just (!) a question of
faith does that conclude that there could be no evidence? What about means
of spiritual inquiry like meditation, interpretation of texts, intuitions
or spiritual experiences or is this just things people made up? Certainly
I could not prove the existence of Spirit or God and I don't want to.
Reminds me of the pathologist who sliced up thousends of corpses just to
state that there is no thing as the soul. Maybe he looked at the wrong
place, maybe with the wrong tools, maybe not. Spiritual questions are not
easy to answer. So should we relate to each other as scientists or as
believers? I would enjoy both.

Best wishes

Dirk

[Host's Note: I fixed a couple of spellings in the msg above. ..Rick]

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