Replying to LO29605 --
Feal this, deer reeder; hello At,
Eyelash to wholeness is both a lack of "hard wiring" and an opportunity
for - perhaps triple loop - learning, third order change.
For me it is not a matter of conditions. There are no conditions for
change. Everything changes. Even the requirement for enough free energy is
illusive. (If there is not enough of it now, nature will transform,
develop using smaller steps, until there is a situation that contains the
required complexity and the opportunity of the required free energy to
transform. The metaphore of the butterfly and the caterpillar comes to
mind: the butterfly is already contained inside the caterpillar and the
caterpillar just has to eat and eat and eat. And if there is not enough,
this caterpillar will dye. Wholeness is already inside each of us, we're
just digesting thoughts and feelings, creating and destroying
opportunities for transformation. The new wholeness will then again mutate
for the next new wholeness. Nothing new under the sun).
We do not need a sense for wholeness to be able to change, improve,
transform. For me it is just as you said: i, you, we have always known it,
it has been there, it is both waiting for me, you, us and we, you're, i am
waiting for it. Like speaking prose we all doing it.
As i've said earlier, i do believe that with us - humanity - the universe
- an other, more poetic, word for wholeness - has become aware of itself.
It was probably both an unintended error ("When God created Man, She was
joking") and a triumph. It was also so painful - ignorance is bliss -
being driven out of paradise. Humanity, and the whole planet has had a
very hard time to coping with this. We're still fighting about it. Why are
we here? Who are we? How are we to live? About a century ago we became
aware of our own evolution. We almost immediately repressed these
concepts, because it also implied that we were fighting each other for the
wrong reasons. We're still fighting the idea, because everything might
have only one purpose and reason: to speed up evolution, developing more
wholeness, creating more complexity. And we've been hard wired to believe
that this conflicts with our own, personal existence. In my opinion it
doesn't, but, as you also mentioned, i've never been able to think
otherwise.
AM de Lange wrote:
>Jan Lelie <janlelie@wxs.nl> writes:
>
>>I'll try to be short. Wholeness, in my opinion, is not so
>>different from "evolution" or "will" or "god", "heel de wereld",
>>even "reality". They are different atributes of the same
>>underlying process phenomena that we can experience - in
>>dreams, visions, while meditating or sometime just when
>>you're ordering a bread at the baker's or looking at a person.
>
>Greetings dear Jan,
>
>I think i understand what you are saying, but i also think it is very
>difficult to articuate what your thoughts had been.
>
>Thank you Jan for your valuable thoughts. Sometimes i wonder whether this
>"blind to wholeness" is not a case of hard-wiring rather than a lack of
>learning.
--Drs J.C. Lelie (Jan, MSc MBA) facilitator mind@work
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