Virtue LO22494

Winfried Dressler (
Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:12:27 +0200

Replying to LO22491 --

Andrew Campbell offered some food for thought by Confucius:


>Unable to eradicate the desire for things, ones person cannot be
>cultivated. This goes through all things.

The purpose of most producing organizations today can be summarized as
"fulfill the desire for things". Do you agree?

Confucius argues that such desire is the root cause for - in short -
virtue not to emerge.

Putting into words of At de Lange, the claim is, that desire for things
leads to destructive creations and the willingness to impair
essentialities such that - finally - unconditional love cannot emerge.

On the other hand, "things" can be created in the course of cultivation of
the person as an outcome of constructive creativity, part of the growing
maturity of form aspects.

How can an organization, dealing with the production of things, bring the
two together: create constructively and fulfill the desire for things?

The easiest would be to say that the desire for things is not as
desastrous as Confucius claims. But I am afraid this is more of closing
eyes than dealing with the conflict.

Any thing produced provides for the opportunity to desire it. Is it

Let's have a look at the purpose statement above:

"Fulfill the desire for things". Let me generalize it into: "Fulfill the
need for things". The claim above is, that desire is a special form of
need, which, when linked to things, will block constructive creativity.

Let me give the ball back to you, the listmembers, with two questions
which arise: First, what kinds of need for things will foster constructive
creativity? And second: To what (if any) should desire be linked to to
also foster constructive creativity?

Thank you Andrew for sharing this source for streams of thoughts.

Liebe Gruesse,



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